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Cracked frame on Ballard Rifle

Splitting this topic off of Jake's Ballard Stevens Rifle post, which was hijacked by me. Sorry about that, Jake.

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Howdy Y'all,Dialog from other thread deleted. This is where the current conversation started. --Michael in NHDid Pope shoot smokeless, or only black powder?Adios,Jake

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He used only black powder or King's Semi-smokeless with his ballard-I believe 777 is almost the same formula as Kings-if that's the cas it's OK to use in a ballard.However when pope started using...

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You find a lot of old BP Ballards with a crack at the back corner of the frame, where people have been using "light" smokeless loads and nearly blew themselves to bits. I bought one, and the guy said...

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That just MIGHT be repairable. Reason i say this, is we had a rash of cracked receivers in M73 7.62mm tank machine guns in the mid-1960s. Repaired by drilling a hole at the end of the cracks to stop...

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Clyde,I've considered having it welded, but Andy Addoms (the best antique gunsmith I know) said a lot depends on the metal, and sometimes the cast iron of the receiver won't take a weld. Basically,...

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Michael,If it's a cast one, I'd forget about it. The forged ones seem to be OK, but i've heard stories about cast rifles having so much inclusions that they a) don't weld and b) are only safe with...

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Gert,Exactly. My Ballard is definitely cast, not forged. This is...er, was...a fairly nice Ball & Williams gun from the State of Kentucky contract, so it has good historical roots, too.I've been...

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Hi MichaeINH:After 40 years in the welding industry and currently the Director of Quality for a premier thin-wall investment casting company, I can attest to the fact that castings are extremely...

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Thanks for the tip Red. That's an option I hadn't considered. There's plenty of blue left on this gun, though the receiver was case hardened, and that has mostly rubbed off. The solder likely wouldn't...

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Umm, wasn't thinking about it being a cast iron (or maybe steel) frame when i suggested the welding fix. Suspect it would have a low probability of success - need forged or rolled steel for that sort...

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Hey Clyde:Was talking to you one the other board about Rolling Blocks. How ya doing???Think Michael can inform us how he posted those great pictures he has of his Ballard????How about it Michael, can...

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Whoops, Sorry:Just realized it was Jalapeno Jake who posted those great pictures, sorry Jake :>((Anyway, can ya help out??TIA: Redwing~

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Redwing first of all log in to the board. Put an email in your profile. Then I can send you the instructions on posting pictures.If you are logged in then you can also go back an edit your previous...

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Redwing, I'm doing fine, just trying to hide from the heat. And praying for rain - had a real nice June, but July was drouthy in East Etxas, and August looks the same. Not only no rain, but hot and...

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Clyde:Yes I see its hot there this time of the year. Spent most of my teen years in the upper Mojave (Kalifornia) until I made good my excape and settled in San Antonio. Took me a year to get out of...

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Dry heat? They must not know much about TExas in the summer, or at least this part of it (or San Antonio, either). Mojave, yeah, its low humidity tehre.

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Hey Clyde:How ya doing?So you like Martinis too ! I am talking to a guy in Australia who deals in them and we came to an agreement on a 303 action with the original back stock and a cut-off fore-stock...

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